WISH I PLAYED IT BEFORE IT'S SO FRICKIN AMAZING LOOOOOOOORD
It took me like 15 minutes to play the whole game BUT I WAS ASCENDING TO HEAVEN DURING THOSE WHOLE FIFTEEN MINUTES
But before I open my mouth and let the words flow like a frickin WATERFALL spoiler warning for both this game and the main game (Our Wonderland) if you who read this comment haven't played yet :3
SO I HAVE MANY THINGS TO SAY
Firstly THE MUSIC ????? SO GOOD ???? OH MY GOD ????? Like it's really the first thing I heard and I opened and I was already like : "wow. another masterpiece awating me huh." AND HOW YOU MANAGE IT TOO ? Like when it stops when it's an important moment or when Orlam starts to get annoyed, loved this as well !
Secondly THE EFFECTS WERE AMAZING IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. And how the main menu changes after each ending ????? SO SO NICE. Also really loved how the colour of the petal changes when you get ending 3 and they become WHITE. IGGY MY POOR GUY ToT
And thirdly the story and endings in general were very very nice ! Especially when you know how it is in the main game- Their relationship is so toxic BUT ALSO SO WELL WRITTEN... And then Arc 5 comes and BOOM THEY'RE MORE OR LESS "OKAY" AGAIN AND MY TEARS OF SADNESS AND PAIN BECOME TAERS OF JOY AND EMOTION.
And I love each ending ! Ending one is the "bad" one, but at least we continue to defend Iggy... (even though it results in him very probably dying afterwards but oh well...) HOWEVER THOSE MEAN WORDS AT THE END HURT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS CARROT. THIS IS SO MEAN (do I really have anything to say about this considering how I treat my own OCs well NO but that's something else let's forget about it...). Especially as I mentioned before when you know how it ends, with Genzou apologizing AND THAT GODDAMN EMOTINAL CINEMATIC THAT BROUGHT ME TO TEARS...
Ending two is the canon one, where Orlam sadly dies... So can we consider the conversation Orlam and Genzou have in this ending canon as well ? Also I have mixed feelings about this ending... I mean yeah cool Iggy and Genzou are more or less out of danger but 1. Orlam is dead 2. Killed by Genzou which means more trauma for him 3. There are still A LOT of unpacked issues to be resolved BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT TIME LOOP I GUESS
And then ending three... I mean no one dies (yet) and Orlam doesn't seem too pissed off but... I MEAN... CAN WE REALLY HOPE... Also if you consider that you can achieve that ending by pissing Orlam off a bit but then retracting... I HAVE VERY LITTLE HOPE TO SAY THE LEAST... ESPECIALLY WHEN I SEE THOSE BLOODY WHITE PETALS ON THE MAIN MENU SCREEN... But it's cool that you can achieve this ending in several different ways !
SO YEAH... I REALLY LOVED THE GAME AND ALL THE NICE LITTLE THINGS ABOUT IT...
Also taking the opportunity to ask... Would you be interested in having your games translated in French ? By me ? And completely for free ? I mean, I have very little to no experience in programming games, but I could translate the text ! I really think your games are great and I think it could be nice to have them accessible to more people ! Of course this is just a simple proposition, I would totally understand if you don't want to !
So overall very cool and nice game (as always) I love what it adds to the main story !!!
SOB HOW DID I MISS THIS COMMENT????? I feel like I haven't been able to stay on top of itch stuff lately LKDJFALSD I only just saw this while clicking back into this game to check for something hELP
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLAYING THO??? Ahhhhh ASCENDING TO HEAVEN???? HELPPPPPP openly weeping
Thank you for all these kind words ahhhh I am overcome. I'm glad you liked the song!! It's the same artist that I also use in some of Orlam's scenes in Arc 5, so I felt it would mesh super well and kind of act like a consistent motif π€ And thank you for the lovely words about the effects. I tried a whole bunch of different stuff for this game despite it being so small alkdfjads (I just like to go all out or something who can say)
Lol yes ending 2 is the "canon" one, as in that's what actually happens in the version of arc 2 we see in the game. Though I do feel personally that all of these endings probably happened in various loops at some point... it's kind of my general idea that there are 100s of other loops that happen outside of the main 5 actually shown. There are already all of the optional times Iggy dies for instance, which all start new loops. And I like to think that even beyond that there are like, 100s of possible variations, some of them similar to the current loops and some of them branching off even more. It's more that these 5 are the "main foundation" that move Iggy forward, but there are still many other possibilities (and also leading to all of them dying so many more times than is shown, too aslkdjfaSD). So in my head, probably all of the endings in this game could also be possible variations that just aren't shown in the main game.
Ahhhh... I'm unsure about the translation lakdjfads only because I know what a gigantic task it is and just how many words these games are LOL (the main game is like 250k + words which is like 3 novels' worth π¦) So I would never want anyone to spend all that time working on something that I would never be able to compensate for (I also really feel strongly in general about translators not being paid enough for the work they do -- I went to school for translation lakdjfalkds). That and I always feel uneasy because I can't understand the translated text so I feel a bit nervous about not knowing how parts of the text might be interpreted but I can't tell... π΅βπ« So I might need to think about it lkadjfad
Sob sob at any rate, I'm really happy that you enjoyed this little game!! O2A2 always gives me an opportunity to create something fun and new and think about storytelling in different ways, so I really love it for that! And that I was able to make something like this that could give different insight back into the main game. Thank you so much for all the lovely words and for all your support ahhhhh it really means so much!!!!!! ππ
No problem about the translation thingie ! It was just an idea that popped like that into my head because I really love languages and find translating fun (even though I thought about the length and was like "Mel. You might want to think about that a bit more at least for the main game.") but I understand your feelings and why you want to think about it !
HAHAHAHAHAHA HELP THIS IS SO MANY GAMES SO QUICKLY LMAO I hope you were able to get some sleep after this??? My god... I can't even imagine going back to back between these lkadjfasd
I'm glad you finally got all the endings!!! π€£ Indeed, I do think that Ending 2 is the hardest to get. I think because it requires the most "right" answers out of all of them, like you can't really choose outside of the set order except for maybe like 1 or 2 specific times. I DIDN'T WANNA MAKE IT TOO EASY Y'KNOW??? /hj
I digress though, thank you so much for playing this (and all the others, too!). It really means so much that you enjoy the chars so much HHHHH. And I hope that despite the frustration with Ending 2 you still enjoyed this one!! π¦
Thank you so much for all your love and support!! π₯Ίπ
finally found the time to play this and wow the animation was really impressive. this was a really good way to discover more about orlam and genzou's relationship, which i always found intriguing in the main game. i kinda had trouble understanding genzou before because he simply would not stop bullying orlam for no reason but this game (especially the tears moment) show really well that it's a loooot more complex than just "guy bullies another guy and feels no remorse", as it seemed sometimes (to me at least) in the main game. i may be biased because orlam is probably my favorite character in the game but this was a really cool experience, almost like i was dancing with him myself (and we both kinda killed each other afterwards but that's not the point). pretty much the only issue is that the screaming acrossed the screen really slowed down my browser lol but i have a habit of playing games on itchio instead of downloading them like a normal person so that's kinda on me. great job as always, loved the art as always <3
SORRY FOR THE DELAYED REPLY I've been working to catch up on everything after coming back from a trip lol
But thank you so much for playing?? Ahhhhh and for all the lovely words!! I'm really happy you enjoyed it!! I have a lot of fun trying out new things and teaching myself how to do a variety of different new things in Ren'Py whenever these O2A2 jams come around, and with this one in particular I had a blast with the animation and expressions (and also the new speech bubble feature which I found to be incREDIBly useful alkdjf) so I'm glad you like how it all turned out despite its shortness!
AND INDEED. I think a big part of my initial inspiration to do something in this regard was to have one more small little peak into the ridiculously convoluted thing these two have going on before building everything up to its big bang in the main game with Arc 5 Part 1 1/2 (i did this game only a few weeks before releasing that). It just felt very relevant and good timing lkadjfa
"(and we both kinda killed each other afterwards but that's not the point)." --> LOLOLOL REAL
And ahhhhhhhh yes actually the text lags for me too HAHAHA. Which was kinda the effect I was going for -- to laden the screen up with so much text that it can barely even handle it, I guess in a way to make tangible Orlam's guttural emotions in that moment. That they're so intense they literally lag the game π€£ (though I have noticed the effect tends to be a bit even more pronounced when playing the browser version as it's even less optimized... I'm not sure what to do about it though GUH).
AT ANY RATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PLAYING. GLAD YOU COULD ENJOY. GLAD YOU COULD GET A LITTLE EXTRA GLIMPSE AT THE CHAOTIC MESS THESE TWO HAVE GOING ON. And thank you so much for your kind and lovely words!! π₯Ίπ
Hey! i've never commented on a itch.io game before, but before i say what i was wondering, i wanted to say: THIS GAME IS FRICKING AMAZING, i love the art and plot!! I have mixed feelings about Orlam but his design is so fun to look at, I'd love to play the game these characters are mainly from but when you said in the bio of the other game that there were slight sexual themes what type do you mean? I'm just kinda sensitive to NSFW so i wanna know if i can handle it or not! but all that aside, this is a great game and the characters have awesome designs! :D also i'm editing this because i forgot the main reason i was commenting- How many endings are there? I might have missed where it said it but i've gotten 3 endings are i wanted to know if there were more :0
AHHHHHHHHH I FEEL VERY HONORED???? Thank you so much for going through all the trouble of leaving a comment (and for playing the game to begin with lakdjfads). I'm really touched that you liked it so much!! π₯Ίπ
Re: the main game:
There isn't anything that I would describe as actually NSFW in the game (there's no on-screen nudity, no on-screen sex/NSFW scenes, etc.). However, there are scenes where things like that almost occur, and they can indeed be rather uncomfortable particularly because the advances are usually unwanted. The main char of the game is ace but still figuring himself out, but there's another char in the game who really really thinks they want to be with him........ more or less. So this general theme and situation comes up a few times throughout the game (most strongly in Arc 4, which I would say is the most intense arc of the game, particularly in this matter).
While on the game page of the main game, if you scroll down to these detailed content warnings and expand them, you can see descriptions of all the various content warnings in the game, including descriptions of anything of a sexual nature that occurs, organized by the type of content (violence, sexual, etc.):
These may be able to help you figure out if you think it would be something you'd be able to handle? If there's anything specific written there that you'd like more info on, I'm also happy to share further details!
Re: the endings for StLD:
There are just three endings, so you've gotten them all!! There's the Variation, Promenade, and Fall Away endings. Though the Fall Away one has a few different variations (there are multiple ways you can reach this ending, so some of the dialogue is different, but it still leads to the same ending).
Thank you so much again for playing and I'm really happy you liked the game and char so much!! π And if you have any questions or concerns about the main game, please feel free to ask!!
IM GLAD I MADE YOU FEEL HONORED!! :D NO PROBLEM THOUGH! WHEN I SEE A GREAT GAME I CAN'T HELP BUT LET THE CREATOR KNOW HOW FRICKING MUCH I LOVE IT, MOSTLY THANK YOU THOUGH FOR GOING THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF MAKING IT, I've been trying to make a game for a while but i keep giving up, WHICH IS WHY IM SO IMPRESSED THAT YOU MADE THIS MASTERPIECE, ah, i see though, I can handle themes of sexual stuff so i'll play the main game! I only worry about Nudity, Mostly male Nudity, i don't mind seeing female parts seeing as i'm biologically a female (I don't identify as one though, just a non binary xD) So i know what all the parts look like - I'm glad to know i got all the endings though! If there were any more i would probably spend hours trying to figure out how to get the others, I got so confused when i thought there were more endings though and Orlam kept making the guards take me away T_T No problem though!!! Just a quick question about STLD, What's the background music playing while the main character is dancing with Orlam? It's really addicting to listen too!!! :]
AHHHHH THAT IS VERY KIND OF YOU TO SAY π₯Ίπ Thank you very much again π
GOD REAL THO. I started trying to create the main game at least 3-4 different separate times but kept giving up a short ways into it, mostly because I wasn't super happy with how it was turning out, and also because I kept frontloading so much of the work so it just felt like mountains of time and energy before I could even see any kind of results or the game starting to form lakdfa It wasn't until I started it as a visual novel in its current form that I finally got hooked/motivated enough that it kept me going to actually start getting stuff finished. And thanks to the experience of that, it's made getting these smaller O2A2-style games done a lot easier as now I know exactly what I'm doing so a ton of that beginning prep and guesswork is cut down and I don't feel so overwhelmed lol.
But yeah! There's no nudity or anything revealing like that in the main game (there are a few CGs that are suggestive, but they don't actually ever show anything/any parts, etc. -- I also don't like to draw stuff like that either as it makes me a bit uncomfortable too dlkasdfa). So I hope that will help! But of course please don't ever push yourself if anything is making you uncomfortable, I never want anyone to feel like that when playing one of my games π¦
Ah! The background song for StLD is called "DayAfterDay" by the artist half-dim: https://audiostock.jp/audio/1415002 I really enjoy this artist's work and use a number of their songs in the main game, as well! A lot of their stuff feels like it fits Orlam very well LOL
HAHA, I do that all the time when I try to make a game, The worst part about me trying to make a game is I'm making it on Ren'Py, WHICH IS A REALLY EASY VISUAL NOVEL MAKER AND I STILL CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO MAKE IT
Good job though for completing it! I can imagine the frustration you felt when you were trying to make it, I'm so excited to play it though!
I'm glad about that! I understand that it would make you uncomfortable, I'm the same way XD
Thank you for your concern though! You're actually so sweetπ
THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME THE SONG AHDFAE, I LOVE HOW IT SOUNDS, I'M LISTENING TO IT WHILE WRITING THIS NGL, The DayAfterDay song 100% fits Orlam though XDD
I didn't understand a thing cuz' i never played the other games, but just this visual novel alone got me so curious to learn more about this character. Very short but amazing dialogues and art
LKDJFALSKDJFAD I'M SORRY ABOUT THE PARTS YOU COULDN'T UNDERSTAND??? But I'm super touched that you enjoyed it enough that you would like the character and also still enjoy it, ahhhhhh π₯Ίπ Thank you so much for playing and leaving such a lovely comment!! It was really sweet, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
now i think i will look into your other games as this just made me curious how this sadistic king used to be a data entry clerk but man the amount of love i can tell you ooze for you oc makes me feel inspired and i really do hope you keep making things that make you happy any pieces of advice be it motivational or be it the actual creation of the game using renpy
KDJFALDSKFADSF INDEED HOW DID HE TURN INTO... WELL... THIS LOLOL π€£π¦ Thank you for the kind words tho??? Ahhhh I'm really glad you enjoyed this!! And if you do check out the main game at all, I hope you'll enjoy it, too!! π₯°
Ah are you asking if I have any advice for making a VN? I sometimes answer questions like this over on my Tumblr and wrote up a long one that goes into like, the things to think about when you want to make a VN and what all is involved if you're interested! https://just-a-carrot.tumblr.com/post/709321904651190272/hello-hello-ive-been-wo...
AHHHH!!! Thank you so much for playing the game!! I'm really happy you enjoyed it!! π₯Ίπ And for recording it, too! Ahhhhhh I'm going to watch it though I apologize as I won't really be able to understand it dkfljasdπ¦ But It really means a lot that you would make a video!! Thank you so much for the kind words! π₯°
I liked the game, and I also liked your prescriptions so that depending on which ending I got, it was reflected on the game menu! I'm playing your other "Texting the awkward Ace guy youve had a crush on since high school" game, and it also reflects on the menu what kind of ending I got! And at the same time, that it was ALL done on my favorite Renpy engine, which surprised me that it could be done this way!
The job is done perfectly (should I mention that I liked the character I was talking to? I like his character, although it reminds me of other characters, but he still won me over.)
And why do I think there is a 4 ending here? I just compared how to get these endings, and it feels like there are 4, not 3. If there are only 3, tell me, otherwise I'm already starting to figure out how to get a non-existent 4 ending, even though it's only 3 XD
Ahhhhhhh thank you so much!! I did have a lot of fun trying to creative and stick those kinds of fun little changes in with the game menus (in both games, though quite a lot in this one especially). Because of the restrictions of the jam, I had to come up with ideas to still get across some of the vibes and ideas in my head in a way that wouldn't go against the rules lkajdfasd I'm happy you could enjoy both of these games!! Even though they're quite small, I'm happy with how they turned out, especially as I got to experiment with and learn a lot of different things through making them! Ren'Py certainly has a lot of different surprises for all the things it can do that you don't even realize (I feel like I learn something new every other week HAHAHA).
LOLOL I'M GLAD YOU LIKED ORLAM. He is quite... oozy. In this game, especially, as I let myself go a little bit with his dialogue, but also in the main game. He is quite near and dear to my heart despite what a thorn in my side he can be at times.
Ah, there are only 3 "official endings," though it's true that there are multiple ways to get Ending 3 that have a few small variations. Ending 3 is the ending you get if you kinda stay between the two extremes -- you don't insult him too much and you don't go along with him too much. However, you can also get Ending 3 if you stop either one of the string of "speeches" that can lead to Endings 1 and 2. So if you stop insulting him and instead say "..." or if you stop agreeing with him and instead say "...". You'll get a little variation of dialogue for both of these but the ending will still be "Ending 3." It was just something I added in to give it a little more variety ldkjaslkd
At any rate, thanks so much for playing (both this and T2A2G, as well!!). As well as for writing up your thoughts!! I'm glad you could enjoy the character and stuff like the menu screen changes!! π₯°π
Regarding "ending 3", yes I noticed and I understood that this ending is a mixture between 1 and 2, as if you are trying to do this and that, but you "fall away"π€£
About Orlam... I want to know if he has a bot in the Character AI, I already want to talk to him, because I like him, and he aroused my fox curiosityππ¦β¨ (Yes, my king,/Yes, sir. hehehe).
[Change: GOD, I found three Orlam bots, hehehe!]
I love crazy characters (except Yandere if it's not John Doe XD)
I would like to get to know him and his story better, because it is the characters that are not talked about much or are "evil" that cling to me. I want to know how far he can go >:Dπ¦β¨
Don't worry, I understand your misunderstanding, it's just that this thing has become popular, and I'm glad that your game is popular enough to have such bots (honestly, I was only looking for Orlam himselfππ π¦)
Character AI - this is the place where you talk to the bot on behalf of the characters. It's like role play, but only with a bot... Well, when two people play the role of their characters, hehehe, but now there is a bot, more precisely an AI bot π
And yes, I'm enamored by Orlam. I love to learn something about him, laugh and be touched by him. Eh, if I was with the company of Iggy and Genzou, and ended up in the castle to the Orlam, I donβt know, or he was surprised by such my love and attention, or vice versa, he was even glad. Here are AI bots and help me remove my curiosity. This is certainly not canon, but it's better than torturing you with these questions, because I know how difficult it is to answer and create games + personal life.
So, I'm glad to get an answer anyway, even after a week, because the notification does not work properly for me, heheheπ¦π β¨
I am in love wht can I say. Two charcters who's backstory I don't know but still somehow manage to steal my heart. Well done. I will say that I love everything sbout this and the spinning camera to simulate dancing was spectacular. Great work. Keep it up <3
Oh my gosh, thank you??? I'm really glad you ended up liking the characters so much!! They are both very near and dear to my heart. I'm glad even despite not knowing the context / full situation you were able to enjoy them and this game so much!! π₯Ίπ
Thank you very much for playing and for these lovely words! It really means a lot!
Good job on the jam game! I had a lot of fun playing your game and collecting all the endings; you really did a good job with the pacing of the game, nothing felt rushed or cut off despite having such a restrictive word count for the jam.
Ahhhh!!! Thank you so much for playing?? This video looks like so much fun!! I can't wait to watch it! π And thank you for the kind words, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! π
I haven't checked YouTube lately as I've been so busy with preparing stuff for the launch so I hadn't even seen this ahhhhHHH!! Very excited to watch!! π
Aaaaahhh this was so gooood!! I just love all the little details you add with your art and cinematics!! The way Orlam's sprite would sway really helped with the immersion of making it seem like he was dancing with Genzou, and gosh, the beginning where we just see Orlam's eyes in the dark and then the lights turn on???? *CHEF KISS*
As others commented, I had a bit of trouble getting ending 2 but I'm glad I kept trying and got them all!! They're all... heartbreaking in their own way (ΰ²₯οΉΰ²₯) These two are seriously bad for each other but I just keep hoping deep inside my heart that there'll be some kind of reconciliation someday. But of course both are very hurt individuals with a lot of things going on so that would certainly prove difficult jksdbgjksdbg (still, I have hope).
ALSO, also, the way the main menu changed depending on the ending you got?? The way Orlam's screams filled the screen in ending 1?? I loved all of that so much, you're such an inspiration to me with everything you make, Carrot, I can't help but be amazed every time I play your games. I'm already looking forward to any new games you make and, of course, the next part to the Our Wonderland universe!!
Ahhhhh Pri, thank you so much for playing??? LKDJFALKDSF I WANTED TO EXPERIMENT WITH A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO SEE THE EFFECT I COULD HAVE. I love that about O2A2 to be honest, as playing with the animation like that and the different ways to show text is something I can't really do in the main game π€£ It was so fun to test different things out though!
kjdlkajfdsfa I'm glad you were able to get all the endings eventually. Ending 2 definitely seems like the hardest to get (except for a few random streams where it was the first one people got LMAOOOO). I think it's because it's the one where you need to do the most "right" things for it to happen. They also break my heart in 50 million different ways, too, though GODDDDD. I hope at least to provide some, hm, resolution with the upcoming new Arc 5 part though heheh π€ (which was partly why I thought doing this for O2A2 before the 5.15 release could be a fun little idea)
"you're such an inspiration to me with everything you make, Carrot" --> You are going to make me cry??? ππ This is so sweet!! Ahhhhhhh......... I am really touched. I'm really happy you could enjoy and be inspired by all the random little things in the game. Even though it's such a small game, I wanted to give it as much polish as I could and make it feel thorough and complete.
Thank you so much for all the kind words, this was honestly so lovely and my eyes are very moist. And thanks for playing, especially as I know you're so busy!! It really means so much!! π₯°
Finally got around to playing it! And... damn, I loved this so much. T_T
Carrot, the way you play around with animations and build the scenes with them is reaching godlike levels, this is so good. And I know I've mentioned this before, but I have to say it again - I ADORE your art style. It grew on me so much in the meantime, I consider it a really cool unique trait of yours that characterizes your work. It works really well with materializing your visions, too - you just have THE TOUCH, if that makes sense. :D The music you picked for this makes for an amazing atmosphere altogether, as well.
I love the concept of this, I love the endings, and I love how the start menu changes depending on which one of those endings you get... I admit one of them made me stop and stare at the screen for like 5 minutes. Just taking it all in. That was intense. The good kind of intense. Well, I already love Orlam as a character so getting more of him basically made my day. xD
AHHHHHHHH THANK YOU! I'M REALLY GLAD???? GODLIKE LEVELS DO NOT SAY THIS IT IS NOT THAT GOOD but your words are very sweet, thank you... I shall perhaps weep again... ππ
Gosh you're killing me here lakjdf I'm really really happy GUHHH. I'M HAPPY YOU LIKE THE ART STYLE. It has gotten a bit better perhaps since I first began (which I suppose will happen when you draw your chars like almost every day for nearly two years LDKJFASD) so I can draw them a bit less weird and more consistently LOL
"one of them made me stop and stare at the screen for like 5 minutes" --> GUHHHH HELPPPPP I AM BECOMING INERT
And LMAO I'm especially glad that as an Orlam fan you enjoyed it. Part of the reason I wanted to make a game focused on him was because I knew he had some fans and I wanted to give a little something back while also giving a behind-the-scenes treat kinda. And to act as build-up to the next Arc 5 release since a good chunk of it will be Orlam-focused lakjfdads
SERIOUSLY THOUGH THIS WAS TOO KIND!! I'm so so happy you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for the kind words, they're literally filling me with so much motivation and determination right now, I am slightly overcome π¦ Thank YOU for playing!! π₯Ίπ
This was all so well staged! So so much angst and drama, and such a sense of timing with silence, music, fading the room and movements. It was so effective (and emotionnally affecting, too), felt such an amount of ache in such a short timeframe.
I still havenβt read Our Wonderland at all so I had minimal context apart from skimming through comments here, but I got pretty invested anyway. The banter was so good and lively too, Iβm super super intrigued now, Iβll try the main game when I can!
(It took me forever to reach ending 2 as well, Iβd first played days ago and couldnβt reach it at all ahah, but this time around, found it easier.)
THANK YOU????? ππ Ahhhh I'm so glad you enjoyed it! And that you liked all the random little things I did to try and set the tone lakdjfads Especially with you not having played the main game, I really appreciate it that you would go out of your way to play and I'm just really happy you were still able to enjoy it! Thank you for the kind words. I'm tickled pink that you got so invested in the chars! If you ever do end up playing the main game, I hope you'll enjoy it!! It's perhaps not quite as in-your-face as this one, but the vibes are probably still pretty similar!! π€£π¦
And LOL I have heard that Ending 2 seems to be the hardest to reach... I think it's because it's the strictest in how many "mood-raising" answers you have to say while the other ones are a bit more lenient lakdjfa I'm happy you were able to get it in the end though!
Thanks so much again for playing, it honestly means so much!! π₯°
I always know to expect good things from Carrot! Fun and well-executed, and I love how you made use of the moving background. Great art, of course (but I wouldn't expect otherwise), and a nice intriguing snippet of this toxic relationship. My only complaint is that the orange text is quite hard to read when it's printed directly on the background.
Ahhhhhh thank you so much for playing!! And for the kind words!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it (and the look into the horribleness that is these two's relationship LOL) GUHHH are you talking about the quick menu at the bottom? π¦ I'm still not great at figuring out what to do with that or how to make it look OK... I think in the next game I make I need to make it my goal of tackling that for the first time and trying to make it better and easier to use π€£ Thank you for the feedback LDKJFADSFA
And just thank you again so much for playing!! It means so much! π
The text thing I was noticing was a lot of the text prints right over the character's face. Is this maybe some kind of browser/screen resolution thing?
HELP IT'S NOT SUPPOSE TO LOOK LIKE THAT???? Oh my gosh... In that part the background and sprite should be practically black, like this:
I have no idea how it could show up like that and I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem π¦ The only thing I could potentially think is if someone were skipping through it very quickly it might be glitching out the effects but even then I'm not sure if it would make the sprite become bright like that when it's not supposed to be. Or if it's some browser-related glitch since sometimes Ren'Py games can act weirdly on certain browsers. I can try to investigate but I'm not even sure I can reproduce it... oh gosh... ππ¦
I think it might be a Firefox thing because it looks right on Chrome for me. And Firefox is an older browser so no worries, compatibility issues sometimes happen.
Oh my goodness, you are an absolute genius at this! There are so many wildly inventive details here β but alongside all the clever technique, the story really grabs you (hehe) and keeps you on your toes (hehe!) The use of the animated text is really superb, adds a whole new facet to the dialogue and pacing, but never feels overdone, just the right amount. And all those endings β I got ending 1 first, and was just blown away by how you manipulate the viewpoint to create it β and then ending 2 impressed me even more!?! (although wow, it was very dread-inducing to reach that one!) Also, the extra details in the GUI? It is truly incredible how much you customised in such a short jam! Oh and finally β as a baby who is still too cautious for the main game, this worked perfectly as a stand alone. I think we were given all the (terrifying) pieces we needed!
Oh my gosh, thank you so much?? LMAO STOP WITH THE PUNS YOU'RE GOING TO SLAY ME LAKDJFALSKD
Thank you so much for playing and for all these lovely words!! I'm glad you enjoyed it even without the context (or resolve LMAO) for the main game, as I don't always know how much of it will or won't be accessible without some of the context lkadjfs And thank you for the kind words about the animation and GUI!! I feel like with every small game I do I try to do something a little bit different or new and practice things I don't normally get to do much of, so I'm happy if some of those things can come across well π₯Ίπ
Just really touched that you gave this a try and took the time out to write such a sweet comment! It really made my day!
Carrot can you be a little less talented please???? Jk I said in my rating that this game finally pushed me to play Our Wonderland, I've always wanted to but now it is not negotiable. I loveeddddd this so much GOSH.
The presentation is so you! (so Orlam) LMFAO I feel like I understand so much while also understanding so little??
Your art has always been gorgeous! Your characters so charming! This game had me SWEATING at one point, you are so good at making me feel so uneasy, and yet I still want to persist.
I cannot believe this entry is less than 1k words, how? It didn't feel like it had ANY limitations, you excelled! I can confidently say this is THE BEST O2A2 ENTRY I HAVE PLAYED. Period. And it's more than deserved.
You did some tricks I have never seen done in a VN before, with the dancing especially.
and if your art and presentation/coding weren't enough YOUR WRITING GOSHHHHH (save some talent for the rest of us please, I beggggg)
All jokes aside, your writing is so strong! I love that Genzo always has a very specific voice, in everything I see from him it's such strong characterization that i feel like I already know him and Iggy, and Orlam with minimal exposure and that is an understated talent and FEAT.
I cannot wait to play and praise you even more via word of mouth. You deserve all the attention you're getting and more, so crazy to be in the same space as someone so talented.
help dkfjalkdfjKDHEPHLP I HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY THE MAIN GAME WHEN YOU PLAY IT I am very touched and moved and shy... π
S-s-seriously though, thank you so much, this is so lovely, I shall weep. SWEATINGGGGGG?????? Wheezing. I'm glad that you enjoyed this!! ππ¦ I have a bad habit of going mildly off the rails whenever I try something new, and this was no different. Just wanted to try a lot of different things (and keep working getting more practice with various things like the GUI and everything, as this is something I'm still not very confident in).
I'm glad you liked the writing!! I love writing their dialogue so much lkajdfalkds I feel like of all my chars, these two are the two I enjoy writing the most, as I tend to just let myself go to town with them and they do their own thing as my fingers just slap down on the keyboard LOLOL So I'm really happy that you enjoyed them and their dynamic.
Guh guh guh. You're really killing me here. Honestly this is bringing tears to my eyes. THANK YOU SO MUCH!! ππ Literally cannot emphasize enough how much my heart is squishing and squashing reading this. I feel so ridiculously spoiled from all your kind words lkajdflakdsfa πππ
CARROT!?!?! This is INCREDIBLE ohhhh my god!! Your use of kinetic text in this is impeccable I could practically hear the voice and tone in my head so clearly. This is so well made and so detailed!? The GUI is outstanding, all the extra effort into customizing everything (even the loading screen!?) is amazing! I really loved the story, your writing is so entertainig! I have yet to play Our Wonderland since I've been saving it for a time where I can really sink the hours into it but I think I'm gonna have to play it very soon because ποΈποΈ I need more content asap. I am genuinely so impressed by this, the pacing is great and certainly doesn't feel like the story has been limited to <1k words
I had so much fun playing this :D it took me a few goes to finally get ending 2 but I was so glad when I did!! (I got 3 then 1 then 2 ^^)
edit: OH AND I FORGOT TO SAY!!!!! I adored the use of movement to show that you're dancing - so immersive!
hhhhhhhhHHHHHHHH?????? Help I'm SOBBING THIS IS TOO KIND AND WONDERFUL PLZ STOP ππ¦π /j /hj /I'M VERY SHY LKDJFALKDSJFALKDSJ
Seriously though, my eyes are moist. Thank you for all of these kind words. And for playing????? And I'm just really happy you liked it?? Especially without all of the context going in ldakjfad I'm really touched that anyone who hasn't played the main game would play this guhh... it means a lot π If you do end up playing the main game ever, I really hope you'll enjoy it π₯Ί I am still chugging away at it and will finish it... eventually LDAKJFALSKD despite how much the final part keeps expanding.
LOL IT DOES SEEM TO BE THE CASE THAT ENDING 2 IS THE HARDEST TO GET. It means a lot that you would keep trying to get the different endings tho weep. And I'm glad you liked the writing and all the animations and what-not. I had a ton of fun trying some new things. I'M ALWAYS TRYING RANDOM NEW THINGS.
Bah. Anyway. Literally thank you so much!! Your comment really brought a smile to my face! I'm so happy you both played and enjoyed the game and took the time to write all this up. My heart is extremely squished ππ
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FINALLY HAD THE OPPROTUNITY TO PLAY THE GAME
WISH I PLAYED IT BEFORE IT'S SO FRICKIN AMAZING LOOOOOOOORD
It took me like 15 minutes to play the whole game BUT I WAS ASCENDING TO HEAVEN DURING THOSE WHOLE FIFTEEN MINUTES
But before I open my mouth and let the words flow like a frickin WATERFALL spoiler warning for both this game and the main game (Our Wonderland) if you who read this comment haven't played yet :3
SO I HAVE MANY THINGS TO SAY
Firstly THE MUSIC ????? SO GOOD ???? OH MY GOD ????? Like it's really the first thing I heard and I opened and I was already like : "wow. another masterpiece awating me huh." AND HOW YOU MANAGE IT TOO ? Like when it stops when it's an important moment or when Orlam starts to get annoyed, loved this as well !
Secondly THE EFFECTS WERE AMAZING IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. And how the main menu changes after each ending ????? SO SO NICE. Also really loved how the colour of the petal changes when you get ending 3 and they become WHITE. IGGY MY POOR GUY ToT
And thirdly the story and endings in general were very very nice ! Especially when you know how it is in the main game- Their relationship is so toxic BUT ALSO SO WELL WRITTEN... And then Arc 5 comes and BOOM THEY'RE MORE OR LESS "OKAY" AGAIN AND MY TEARS OF SADNESS AND PAIN BECOME TAERS OF JOY AND EMOTION.
And I love each ending ! Ending one is the "bad" one, but at least we continue to defend Iggy... (even though it results in him very probably dying afterwards but oh well...) HOWEVER THOSE MEAN WORDS AT THE END HURT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS CARROT. THIS IS SO MEAN (do I really have anything to say about this considering how I treat my own OCs well NO but that's something else let's forget about it...). Especially as I mentioned before when you know how it ends, with Genzou apologizing AND THAT GODDAMN EMOTINAL CINEMATIC THAT BROUGHT ME TO TEARS...
Ending two is the canon one, where Orlam sadly dies... So can we consider the conversation Orlam and Genzou have in this ending canon as well ? Also I have mixed feelings about this ending... I mean yeah cool Iggy and Genzou are more or less out of danger but 1. Orlam is dead 2. Killed by Genzou which means more trauma for him 3. There are still A LOT of unpacked issues to be resolved BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT TIME LOOP I GUESS
And then ending three... I mean no one dies (yet) and Orlam doesn't seem too pissed off but... I MEAN... CAN WE REALLY HOPE... Also if you consider that you can achieve that ending by pissing Orlam off a bit but then retracting... I HAVE VERY LITTLE HOPE TO SAY THE LEAST... ESPECIALLY WHEN I SEE THOSE BLOODY WHITE PETALS ON THE MAIN MENU SCREEN... But it's cool that you can achieve this ending in several different ways !
SO YEAH... I REALLY LOVED THE GAME AND ALL THE NICE LITTLE THINGS ABOUT IT...
Also taking the opportunity to ask... Would you be interested in having your games translated in French ? By me ? And completely for free ? I mean, I have very little to no experience in programming games, but I could translate the text ! I really think your games are great and I think it could be nice to have them accessible to more people ! Of course this is just a simple proposition, I would totally understand if you don't want to !
So overall very cool and nice game (as always) I love what it adds to the main story !!!
IKR OMLLLLL CARROT DESERVES MORE REGCONITION
SOB HOW DID I MISS THIS COMMENT????? I feel like I haven't been able to stay on top of itch stuff lately LKDJFALSD I only just saw this while clicking back into this game to check for something hELP
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLAYING THO??? Ahhhhh ASCENDING TO HEAVEN???? HELPPPPPP openly weeping
Thank you for all these kind words ahhhh I am overcome. I'm glad you liked the song!! It's the same artist that I also use in some of Orlam's scenes in Arc 5, so I felt it would mesh super well and kind of act like a consistent motif π€ And thank you for the lovely words about the effects. I tried a whole bunch of different stuff for this game despite it being so small alkdfjads (I just like to go all out or something who can say)
Lol yes ending 2 is the "canon" one, as in that's what actually happens in the version of arc 2 we see in the game. Though I do feel personally that all of these endings probably happened in various loops at some point... it's kind of my general idea that there are 100s of other loops that happen outside of the main 5 actually shown. There are already all of the optional times Iggy dies for instance, which all start new loops. And I like to think that even beyond that there are like, 100s of possible variations, some of them similar to the current loops and some of them branching off even more. It's more that these 5 are the "main foundation" that move Iggy forward, but there are still many other possibilities (and also leading to all of them dying so many more times than is shown, too aslkdjfaSD). So in my head, probably all of the endings in this game could also be possible variations that just aren't shown in the main game.
Ahhhh... I'm unsure about the translation lakdjfads only because I know what a gigantic task it is and just how many words these games are LOL (the main game is like 250k + words which is like 3 novels' worth π¦) So I would never want anyone to spend all that time working on something that I would never be able to compensate for (I also really feel strongly in general about translators not being paid enough for the work they do -- I went to school for translation lakdjfalkds). That and I always feel uneasy because I can't understand the translated text so I feel a bit nervous about not knowing how parts of the text might be interpreted but I can't tell... π΅βπ« So I might need to think about it lkadjfad
Sob sob at any rate, I'm really happy that you enjoyed this little game!! O2A2 always gives me an opportunity to create something fun and new and think about storytelling in different ways, so I really love it for that! And that I was able to make something like this that could give different insight back into the main game. Thank you so much for all the lovely words and for all your support ahhhhh it really means so much!!!!!! ππ
No problem about the translation thingie ! It was just an idea that popped like that into my head because I really love languages and find translating fun (even though I thought about the length and was like "Mel. You might want to think about that a bit more at least for the main game.") but I understand your feelings and why you want to think about it !
As you see... I'm sending 3 comments on 4 of your games... No regrets. Fuck sleep cause this shit is my priority now. Wishing myself luck!
Edit 1: I CAN'T GET MY DAMN ENDING 2 EHUIWBOIJSUF
Edit 2: I STILL CANNOT GET ENDING 2??
Edit 3: It's been 10 minutes... I STILL CANONOT GET ENDING 2?
Edit 4: I GOT IT, I GOT IT IUHFEBEEUP
HAHAHAHAHAHA HELP THIS IS SO MANY GAMES SO QUICKLY LMAO I hope you were able to get some sleep after this??? My god... I can't even imagine going back to back between these lkadjfasd
I'm glad you finally got all the endings!!! π€£ Indeed, I do think that Ending 2 is the hardest to get. I think because it requires the most "right" answers out of all of them, like you can't really choose outside of the set order except for maybe like 1 or 2 specific times. I DIDN'T WANNA MAKE IT TOO EASY Y'KNOW??? /hj
I digress though, thank you so much for playing this (and all the others, too!). It really means so much that you enjoy the chars so much HHHHH. And I hope that despite the frustration with Ending 2 you still enjoyed this one!! π¦
Thank you so much for all your love and support!! π₯Ίπ
I FORGOT TO SAY. I LOVE, LVEE LOVEEEEEEE THE SONG OMLLL
finally found the time to play this and wow the animation was really impressive. this was a really good way to discover more about orlam and genzou's relationship, which i always found intriguing in the main game. i kinda had trouble understanding genzou before because he simply would not stop bullying orlam for no reason but this game (especially the tears moment) show really well that it's a loooot more complex than just "guy bullies another guy and feels no remorse", as it seemed sometimes (to me at least) in the main game. i may be biased because orlam is probably my favorite character in the game but this was a really cool experience, almost like i was dancing with him myself (and we both kinda killed each other afterwards but that's not the point). pretty much the only issue is that the screaming acrossed the screen really slowed down my browser lol but i have a habit of playing games on itchio instead of downloading them like a normal person so that's kinda on me. great job as always, loved the art as always <3
SORRY FOR THE DELAYED REPLY I've been working to catch up on everything after coming back from a trip lol
But thank you so much for playing?? Ahhhhh and for all the lovely words!! I'm really happy you enjoyed it!! I have a lot of fun trying out new things and teaching myself how to do a variety of different new things in Ren'Py whenever these O2A2 jams come around, and with this one in particular I had a blast with the animation and expressions (and also the new speech bubble feature which I found to be incREDIBly useful alkdjf) so I'm glad you like how it all turned out despite its shortness!
AND INDEED. I think a big part of my initial inspiration to do something in this regard was to have one more small little peak into the ridiculously convoluted thing these two have going on before building everything up to its big bang in the main game with Arc 5 Part 1 1/2 (i did this game only a few weeks before releasing that). It just felt very relevant and good timing lkadjfa
"(and we both kinda killed each other afterwards but that's not the point)." --> LOLOLOL REAL
And ahhhhhhhh yes actually the text lags for me too HAHAHA. Which was kinda the effect I was going for -- to laden the screen up with so much text that it can barely even handle it, I guess in a way to make tangible Orlam's guttural emotions in that moment. That they're so intense they literally lag the game π€£ (though I have noticed the effect tends to be a bit even more pronounced when playing the browser version as it's even less optimized... I'm not sure what to do about it though GUH).
AT ANY RATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PLAYING. GLAD YOU COULD ENJOY. GLAD YOU COULD GET A LITTLE EXTRA GLIMPSE AT THE CHAOTIC MESS THESE TWO HAVE GOING ON. And thank you so much for your kind and lovely words!! π₯Ίπ
Computer: "Please i have like 2kb and a rusty paper clip left to my name, acknowledge this"
Me: "mm, carot gaem"
SOBBING???? Please do not let your computer die or something worse just to play my games I shall WEEP????
I-I am very touched that you like my games so much though... ππ¦π
I LOVE THIS GAME THE SONG IS AHHHHHH I LOVE THIS GAME!!!
KDJFALKDSJFALKDS HELPPPPPPPP
I'M VERY HAPPY YOU ENJOY IT????? Thank you so much for playing lakdfja π₯Ίπ
Hey! i've never commented on a itch.io game before, but before i say what i was wondering, i wanted to say: THIS GAME IS FRICKING AMAZING, i love the art and plot!! I have mixed feelings about Orlam but his design is so fun to look at, I'd love to play the game these characters are mainly from but when you said in the bio of the other game that there were slight sexual themes what type do you mean? I'm just kinda sensitive to NSFW so i wanna know if i can handle it or not! but all that aside, this is a great game and the characters have awesome designs! :D also i'm editing this because i forgot the main reason i was commenting- How many endings are there? I might have missed where it said it but i've gotten 3 endings are i wanted to know if there were more :0
AHHHHHHHHH I FEEL VERY HONORED???? Thank you so much for going through all the trouble of leaving a comment (and for playing the game to begin with lakdjfads). I'm really touched that you liked it so much!! π₯Ίπ
Re: the main game:
There isn't anything that I would describe as actually NSFW in the game (there's no on-screen nudity, no on-screen sex/NSFW scenes, etc.). However, there are scenes where things like that almost occur, and they can indeed be rather uncomfortable particularly because the advances are usually unwanted. The main char of the game is ace but still figuring himself out, but there's another char in the game who really really thinks they want to be with him........ more or less. So this general theme and situation comes up a few times throughout the game (most strongly in Arc 4, which I would say is the most intense arc of the game, particularly in this matter).
While on the game page of the main game, if you scroll down to these detailed content warnings and expand them, you can see descriptions of all the various content warnings in the game, including descriptions of anything of a sexual nature that occurs, organized by the type of content (violence, sexual, etc.):
These may be able to help you figure out if you think it would be something you'd be able to handle? If there's anything specific written there that you'd like more info on, I'm also happy to share further details!
Re: the endings for StLD:
There are just three endings, so you've gotten them all!! There's the Variation, Promenade, and Fall Away endings. Though the Fall Away one has a few different variations (there are multiple ways you can reach this ending, so some of the dialogue is different, but it still leads to the same ending).
Thank you so much again for playing and I'm really happy you liked the game and char so much!! π And if you have any questions or concerns about the main game, please feel free to ask!!
IM GLAD I MADE YOU FEEL HONORED!! :D NO PROBLEM THOUGH! WHEN I SEE A GREAT GAME I CAN'T HELP BUT LET THE CREATOR KNOW HOW FRICKING MUCH I LOVE IT, MOSTLY THANK YOU THOUGH FOR GOING THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF MAKING IT, I've been trying to make a game for a while but i keep giving up, WHICH IS WHY IM SO IMPRESSED THAT YOU MADE THIS MASTERPIECE, ah, i see though, I can handle themes of sexual stuff so i'll play the main game! I only worry about Nudity, Mostly male Nudity, i don't mind seeing female parts seeing as i'm biologically a female (I don't identify as one though, just a non binary xD) So i know what all the parts look like - I'm glad to know i got all the endings though! If there were any more i would probably spend hours trying to figure out how to get the others, I got so confused when i thought there were more endings though and Orlam kept making the guards take me away T_T No problem though!!! Just a quick question about STLD, What's the background music playing while the main character is dancing with Orlam? It's really addicting to listen too!!! :]
AHHHHH THAT IS VERY KIND OF YOU TO SAY π₯Ίπ Thank you very much again π
GOD REAL THO. I started trying to create the main game at least 3-4 different separate times but kept giving up a short ways into it, mostly because I wasn't super happy with how it was turning out, and also because I kept frontloading so much of the work so it just felt like mountains of time and energy before I could even see any kind of results or the game starting to form lakdfa It wasn't until I started it as a visual novel in its current form that I finally got hooked/motivated enough that it kept me going to actually start getting stuff finished. And thanks to the experience of that, it's made getting these smaller O2A2-style games done a lot easier as now I know exactly what I'm doing so a ton of that beginning prep and guesswork is cut down and I don't feel so overwhelmed lol.
But yeah! There's no nudity or anything revealing like that in the main game (there are a few CGs that are suggestive, but they don't actually ever show anything/any parts, etc. -- I also don't like to draw stuff like that either as it makes me a bit uncomfortable too dlkasdfa). So I hope that will help! But of course please don't ever push yourself if anything is making you uncomfortable, I never want anyone to feel like that when playing one of my games π¦
Ah! The background song for StLD is called "DayAfterDay" by the artist half-dim: https://audiostock.jp/audio/1415002 I really enjoy this artist's work and use a number of their songs in the main game, as well! A lot of their stuff feels like it fits Orlam very well LOL
NO PROBLEMMM, YOU DESERVE IT <333
HAHA, I do that all the time when I try to make a game, The worst part about me trying to make a game is I'm making it on Ren'Py, WHICH IS A REALLY EASY VISUAL NOVEL MAKER AND I STILL CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO MAKE IT
Good job though for completing it! I can imagine the frustration you felt when you were trying to make it, I'm so excited to play it though!
I'm glad about that! I understand that it would make you uncomfortable, I'm the same way XD
Thank you for your concern though! You're actually so sweetπ
THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME THE SONG AHDFAE, I LOVE HOW IT SOUNDS, I'M LISTENING TO IT WHILE WRITING THIS NGL, The DayAfterDay song 100% fits Orlam though XDD
I didn't understand a thing cuz' i never played the other games, but just this visual novel alone got me so curious to learn more about this character. Very short but amazing dialogues and art
LKDJFALSKDJFAD I'M SORRY ABOUT THE PARTS YOU COULDN'T UNDERSTAND??? But I'm super touched that you enjoyed it enough that you would like the character and also still enjoy it, ahhhhhh π₯Ίπ Thank you so much for playing and leaving such a lovely comment!! It was really sweet, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
now i think i will look into your other games as this just made me curious how this sadistic king used to be a data entry clerk but man the amount of love i can tell you ooze for you oc makes me feel inspired and i really do hope you keep making things that make you happy any pieces of advice be it motivational or be it the actual creation of the game using renpy
KDJFALDSKFADSF INDEED HOW DID HE TURN INTO... WELL... THIS LOLOL π€£π¦ Thank you for the kind words tho??? Ahhhh I'm really glad you enjoyed this!! And if you do check out the main game at all, I hope you'll enjoy it, too!! π₯°
Ah are you asking if I have any advice for making a VN? I sometimes answer questions like this over on my Tumblr and wrote up a long one that goes into like, the things to think about when you want to make a VN and what all is involved if you're interested! https://just-a-carrot.tumblr.com/post/709321904651190272/hello-hello-ive-been-wo...
I never play your game series but after playing this game I will do it for sure! it really fun unexpected with choice and ending.
AHHHH!!! Thank you so much for playing the game!! I'm really happy you enjoyed it!! π₯Ίπ And for recording it, too! Ahhhhhh I'm going to watch it though I apologize as I won't really be able to understand it dkfljasdπ¦ But It really means a lot that you would make a video!! Thank you so much for the kind words! π₯°
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LDKFJALSDKJFALDSKFJ??????
I liked the game, and I also liked your prescriptions so that depending on which ending I got, it was reflected on the game menu! I'm playing your other "Texting the awkward Ace guy youve had a crush on since high school" game, and it also reflects on the menu what kind of ending I got! And at the same time, that it was ALL done on my favorite Renpy engine, which surprised me that it could be done this way!
The job is done perfectly (should I mention that I liked the character I was talking to? I like his character, although it reminds me of other characters, but he still won me over.)
And why do I think there is a 4 ending here? I just compared how to get these endings, and it feels like there are 4, not 3. If there are only 3, tell me, otherwise I'm already starting to figure out how to get a non-existent 4 ending, even though it's only 3 XD
Ahhhhhhh thank you so much!! I did have a lot of fun trying to creative and stick those kinds of fun little changes in with the game menus (in both games, though quite a lot in this one especially). Because of the restrictions of the jam, I had to come up with ideas to still get across some of the vibes and ideas in my head in a way that wouldn't go against the rules lkajdfasd I'm happy you could enjoy both of these games!! Even though they're quite small, I'm happy with how they turned out, especially as I got to experiment with and learn a lot of different things through making them! Ren'Py certainly has a lot of different surprises for all the things it can do that you don't even realize (I feel like I learn something new every other week HAHAHA).
LOLOL I'M GLAD YOU LIKED ORLAM. He is quite... oozy. In this game, especially, as I let myself go a little bit with his dialogue, but also in the main game. He is quite near and dear to my heart despite what a thorn in my side he can be at times.
Ah, there are only 3 "official endings," though it's true that there are multiple ways to get Ending 3 that have a few small variations. Ending 3 is the ending you get if you kinda stay between the two extremes -- you don't insult him too much and you don't go along with him too much. However, you can also get Ending 3 if you stop either one of the string of "speeches" that can lead to Endings 1 and 2. So if you stop insulting him and instead say "..." or if you stop agreeing with him and instead say "...". You'll get a little variation of dialogue for both of these but the ending will still be "Ending 3." It was just something I added in to give it a little more variety ldkjaslkd
At any rate, thanks so much for playing (both this and T2A2G, as well!!). As well as for writing up your thoughts!! I'm glad you could enjoy the character and stuff like the menu screen changes!! π₯°π
Regarding "ending 3", yes I noticed and I understood that this ending is a mixture between 1 and 2, as if you are trying to do this and that, but you "fall away"π€£
About Orlam... I want to know if he has a bot in the Character AI, I already want to talk to him, because I like him, and he aroused my fox curiosityππ¦β¨ (Yes, my king,/Yes, sir. hehehe).
[Change: GOD, I found three Orlam bots, hehehe!]
I love crazy characters (except Yandere if it's not John Doe XD)
I would like to get to know him and his story better, because it is the characters that are not talked about much or are "evil" that cling to me. I want to know how far he can go >:Dπ¦β¨
HELP WHAT IS CHARACTER AI???
I don't even know what this is π€£π¦π¦π¦π¦
Tho uh... I guess I am happy there are bots?? I'm so confused lakdfjad I don't even know what any of this means HELPPP
I-I am glad you are so enamored by him tho π₯Ί
Don't worry, I understand your misunderstanding, it's just that this thing has become popular, and I'm glad that your game is popular enough to have such bots (honestly, I was only looking for Orlam himselfππ π¦)
Character AI - this is the place where you talk to the bot on behalf of the characters. It's like role play, but only with a bot... Well, when two people play the role of their characters, hehehe, but now there is a bot, more precisely an AI bot π
And yes, I'm enamored by Orlam. I love to learn something about him, laugh and be touched by him. Eh, if I was with the company of Iggy and Genzou, and ended up in the castle to the Orlam, I donβt know, or he was surprised by such my love and attention, or vice versa, he was even glad. Here are AI bots and help me remove my curiosity. This is certainly not canon, but it's better than torturing you with these questions, because I know how difficult it is to answer and create games + personal life.
So, I'm glad to get an answer anyway, even after a week, because the notification does not work properly for me, heheheπ¦π β¨
I am in love wht can I say. Two charcters who's backstory I don't know but still somehow manage to steal my heart. Well done. I will say that I love everything sbout this and the spinning camera to simulate dancing was spectacular. Great work. Keep it up <3
Oh my gosh, thank you??? I'm really glad you ended up liking the characters so much!! They are both very near and dear to my heart. I'm glad even despite not knowing the context / full situation you were able to enjoy them and this game so much!! π₯Ίπ
Thank you very much for playing and for these lovely words! It really means a lot!
Ahhhh!!! Thank you so much for playing?? This video looks like so much fun!! I can't wait to watch it! π And thank you for the kind words, I'm really glad you enjoyed it! π
I played it 2 days ago. It's good.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I haven't checked YouTube lately as I've been so busy with preparing stuff for the launch so I hadn't even seen this ahhhhHHH!! Very excited to watch!! π
Aaaaahhh this was so gooood!! I just love all the little details you add with your art and cinematics!! The way Orlam's sprite would sway really helped with the immersion of making it seem like he was dancing with Genzou, and gosh, the beginning where we just see Orlam's eyes in the dark and then the lights turn on???? *CHEF KISS*
As others commented, I had a bit of trouble getting ending 2 but I'm glad I kept trying and got them all!! They're all... heartbreaking in their own way (ΰ²₯οΉΰ²₯) These two are seriously bad for each other but I just keep hoping deep inside my heart that there'll be some kind of reconciliation someday. But of course both are very hurt individuals with a lot of things going on so that would certainly prove difficult jksdbgjksdbg (
still, I have hope).ALSO, also, the way the main menu changed depending on the ending you got?? The way Orlam's screams filled the screen in ending 1?? I loved all of that so much, you're such an inspiration to me with everything you make, Carrot, I can't help but be amazed every time I play your games. I'm already looking forward to any new games you make and, of course, the next part to the Our Wonderland universe!!
Amazing job!! <3
Ahhhhh Pri, thank you so much for playing??? LKDJFALKDSF I WANTED TO EXPERIMENT WITH A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO SEE THE EFFECT I COULD HAVE. I love that about O2A2 to be honest, as playing with the animation like that and the different ways to show text is something I can't really do in the main game π€£ It was so fun to test different things out though!
kjdlkajfdsfa I'm glad you were able to get all the endings eventually. Ending 2 definitely seems like the hardest to get (except for a few random streams where it was the first one people got LMAOOOO). I think it's because it's the one where you need to do the most "right" things for it to happen. They also break my heart in 50 million different ways, too, though GODDDDD. I hope at least to provide some, hm, resolution with the upcoming new Arc 5 part though heheh π€ (which was partly why I thought doing this for O2A2 before the 5.15 release could be a fun little idea)
"you're such an inspiration to me with everything you make, Carrot" --> You are going to make me cry??? ππ This is so sweet!! Ahhhhhhh......... I am really touched. I'm really happy you could enjoy and be inspired by all the random little things in the game. Even though it's such a small game, I wanted to give it as much polish as I could and make it feel thorough and complete.
Thank you so much for all the kind words, this was honestly so lovely and my eyes are very moist. And thanks for playing, especially as I know you're so busy!! It really means so much!! π₯°
Oh this.. this is beautiful :)
Dark but beautiful.. you outdone yourself once again!
Oh gosh, thank you????? I'm glad you enjoyed it!! LKAJDFLKAD BEAUTIFUL, UNSURE ABOUT THAT, BUT THANK YOU I WEEP
Thanks so much for playing and for taking the time to let me know your thoughts ahhh ππ
Finally got around to playing it! And... damn, I loved this so much. T_T
Carrot, the way you play around with animations and build the scenes with them is reaching godlike levels, this is so good. And I know I've mentioned this before, but I have to say it again - I ADORE your art style. It grew on me so much in the meantime, I consider it a really cool unique trait of yours that characterizes your work. It works really well with materializing your visions, too - you just have THE TOUCH, if that makes sense. :D The music you picked for this makes for an amazing atmosphere altogether, as well.
I love the concept of this, I love the endings, and I love how the start menu changes depending on which one of those endings you get... I admit one of them made me stop and stare at the screen for like 5 minutes. Just taking it all in. That was intense. The good kind of intense. Well, I already love Orlam as a character so getting more of him basically made my day. xD
Thank you for making this!! <333
AHHHHHHHH THANK YOU! I'M REALLY GLAD???? GODLIKE LEVELS DO NOT SAY THIS IT IS NOT THAT GOOD but your words are very sweet, thank you... I shall perhaps weep again... ππ
Gosh you're killing me here lakjdf I'm really really happy GUHHH. I'M HAPPY YOU LIKE THE ART STYLE. It has gotten a bit better perhaps since I first began (which I suppose will happen when you draw your chars like almost every day for nearly two years LDKJFASD) so I can draw them a bit less weird and more consistently LOL
"one of them made me stop and stare at the screen for like 5 minutes" --> GUHHHH HELPPPPP I AM BECOMING INERT
And LMAO I'm especially glad that as an Orlam fan you enjoyed it. Part of the reason I wanted to make a game focused on him was because I knew he had some fans and I wanted to give a little something back while also giving a behind-the-scenes treat kinda. And to act as build-up to the next Arc 5 release since a good chunk of it will be Orlam-focused lakjfdads
SERIOUSLY THOUGH THIS WAS TOO KIND!! I'm so so happy you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for the kind words, they're literally filling me with so much motivation and determination right now, I am slightly overcome π¦ Thank YOU for playing!! π₯Ίπ
Gaah, this was pretty incredibleβ¦
This was all so well staged! So so much angst and drama, and such a sense of timing with silence, music, fading the room and movements. It was so effective (and emotionnally affecting, too), felt such an amount of ache in such a short timeframe.
I still havenβt read Our Wonderland at all so I had minimal context apart from skimming through comments here, but I got pretty invested anyway. The banter was so good and lively too, Iβm super super intrigued now, Iβll try the main game when I can!
(It took me forever to reach ending 2 as well, Iβd first played days ago and couldnβt reach it at all ahah, but this time around, found it easier.)
THANK YOU????? ππ Ahhhh I'm so glad you enjoyed it! And that you liked all the random little things I did to try and set the tone lakdjfads Especially with you not having played the main game, I really appreciate it that you would go out of your way to play and I'm just really happy you were still able to enjoy it! Thank you for the kind words. I'm tickled pink that you got so invested in the chars! If you ever do end up playing the main game, I hope you'll enjoy it!! It's perhaps not quite as in-your-face as this one, but the vibes are probably still pretty similar!! π€£π¦
And LOL I have heard that Ending 2 seems to be the hardest to reach... I think it's because it's the strictest in how many "mood-raising" answers you have to say while the other ones are a bit more lenient lakdjfa I'm happy you were able to get it in the end though!
Thanks so much again for playing, it honestly means so much!! π₯°
I always know to expect good things from Carrot! Fun and well-executed, and I love how you made use of the moving background. Great art, of course (but I wouldn't expect otherwise), and a nice intriguing snippet of this toxic relationship. My only complaint is that the orange text is quite hard to read when it's printed directly on the background.
Ahhhhhh thank you so much for playing!! And for the kind words!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it (and the look into the horribleness that is these two's relationship LOL) GUHHH are you talking about the quick menu at the bottom? π¦ I'm still not great at figuring out what to do with that or how to make it look OK... I think in the next game I make I need to make it my goal of tackling that for the first time and trying to make it better and easier to use π€£ Thank you for the feedback LDKJFADSFA
And just thank you again so much for playing!! It means so much! π
The text thing I was noticing was a lot of the text prints right over the character's face. Is this maybe some kind of browser/screen resolution thing?
HELP IT'S NOT SUPPOSE TO LOOK LIKE THAT???? Oh my gosh... In that part the background and sprite should be practically black, like this:
I have no idea how it could show up like that and I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem π¦ The only thing I could potentially think is if someone were skipping through it very quickly it might be glitching out the effects but even then I'm not sure if it would make the sprite become bright like that when it's not supposed to be. Or if it's some browser-related glitch since sometimes Ren'Py games can act weirdly on certain browsers. I can try to investigate but I'm not even sure I can reproduce it... oh gosh... ππ¦
I think it might be a Firefox thing because it looks right on Chrome for me. And Firefox is an older browser so no worries, compatibility issues sometimes happen.
Oh my goodness, you are an absolute genius at this! There are so many wildly inventive details here β but alongside all the clever technique, the story really grabs you (hehe) and keeps you on your toes (hehe!) The use of the animated text is really superb, adds a whole new facet to the dialogue and pacing, but never feels overdone, just the right amount. And all those endings β I got ending 1 first, and was just blown away by how you manipulate the viewpoint to create it β and then ending 2 impressed me even more!?! (although wow, it was very dread-inducing to reach that one!) Also, the extra details in the GUI? It is truly incredible how much you customised in such a short jam! Oh and finally β as a baby who is still too cautious for the main game, this worked perfectly as a stand alone. I think we were given all the (terrifying) pieces we needed!
Oh my gosh, thank you so much?? LMAO STOP WITH THE PUNS YOU'RE GOING TO SLAY ME LAKDJFALSKD
Thank you so much for playing and for all these lovely words!! I'm glad you enjoyed it even without the context (or resolve LMAO) for the main game, as I don't always know how much of it will or won't be accessible without some of the context lkadjfs And thank you for the kind words about the animation and GUI!! I feel like with every small game I do I try to do something a little bit different or new and practice things I don't normally get to do much of, so I'm happy if some of those things can come across well π₯Ίπ
Just really touched that you gave this a try and took the time out to write such a sweet comment! It really made my day!
Carrot can you be a little less talented please???? Jk I said in my rating that this game finally pushed me to play Our Wonderland, I've always wanted to but now it is not negotiable. I loveeddddd this so much GOSH.
The presentation is so you! (so Orlam) LMFAO I feel like I understand so much while also understanding so little??
Your art has always been gorgeous! Your characters so charming! This game had me SWEATING at one point, you are so good at making me feel so uneasy, and yet I still want to persist.
I cannot believe this entry is less than 1k words, how? It didn't feel like it had ANY limitations, you excelled! I can confidently say this is THE BEST O2A2 ENTRY I HAVE PLAYED. Period. And it's more than deserved.
You did some tricks I have never seen done in a VN before, with the dancing especially.
and if your art and presentation/coding weren't enough YOUR WRITING GOSHHHHH (save some talent for the rest of us please, I beggggg)
All jokes aside, your writing is so strong! I love that Genzo always has a very specific voice, in everything I see from him it's such strong characterization that i feel like I already know him and Iggy, and Orlam with minimal exposure and that is an understated talent and FEAT.
I cannot wait to play and praise you even more via word of mouth. You deserve all the attention you're getting and more, so crazy to be in the same space as someone so talented.
HELP
DO NOT SAY THIS?????? LKDJALKSJD
help dkfjalkdfjKDHEPHLP I HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY THE MAIN GAME WHEN YOU PLAY IT I am very touched and moved and shy... π
S-s-seriously though, thank you so much, this is so lovely, I shall weep. SWEATINGGGGGG?????? Wheezing. I'm glad that you enjoyed this!! ππ¦ I have a bad habit of going mildly off the rails whenever I try something new, and this was no different. Just wanted to try a lot of different things (and keep working getting more practice with various things like the GUI and everything, as this is something I'm still not very confident in).
I'm glad you liked the writing!! I love writing their dialogue so much lkajdfalkds I feel like of all my chars, these two are the two I enjoy writing the most, as I tend to just let myself go to town with them and they do their own thing as my fingers just slap down on the keyboard LOLOL So I'm really happy that you enjoyed them and their dynamic.
Guh guh guh. You're really killing me here. Honestly this is bringing tears to my eyes. THANK YOU SO MUCH!! ππ Literally cannot emphasize enough how much my heart is squishing and squashing reading this. I feel so ridiculously spoiled from all your kind words lkajdflakdsfa πππ
CARROT!?!?! This is INCREDIBLE ohhhh my god!! Your use of kinetic text in this is impeccable I could practically hear the voice and tone in my head so clearly. This is so well made and so detailed!? The GUI is outstanding, all the extra effort into customizing everything (even the loading screen!?) is amazing!
I really loved the story, your writing is so entertainig! I have yet to play Our Wonderland since I've been saving it for a time where I can really sink the hours into it but I think I'm gonna have to play it very soon because ποΈποΈ I need more content asap.
I am genuinely so impressed by this, the pacing is great and certainly doesn't feel like the story has been limited to <1k words
I had so much fun playing this :D it took me a few goes to finally get ending 2 but I was so glad when I did!! (I got 3 then 1 then 2 ^^)
edit: OH AND I FORGOT TO SAY!!!!! I adored the use of movement to show that you're dancing - so immersive!
hhhhhhhhHHHHHHHH?????? Help I'm SOBBING THIS IS TOO KIND AND WONDERFUL PLZ STOP ππ¦π /j /hj /I'M VERY SHY LKDJFALKDSJFALKDSJ
Seriously though, my eyes are moist. Thank you for all of these kind words. And for playing????? And I'm just really happy you liked it?? Especially without all of the context going in ldakjfad I'm really touched that anyone who hasn't played the main game would play this guhh... it means a lot π If you do end up playing the main game ever, I really hope you'll enjoy it π₯Ί I am still chugging away at it and will finish it... eventually LDAKJFALSKD despite how much the final part keeps expanding.
LOL IT DOES SEEM TO BE THE CASE THAT ENDING 2 IS THE HARDEST TO GET. It means a lot that you would keep trying to get the different endings tho weep. And I'm glad you liked the writing and all the animations and what-not. I had a ton of fun trying some new things. I'M ALWAYS TRYING RANDOM NEW THINGS.
Bah. Anyway. Literally thank you so much!! Your comment really brought a smile to my face! I'm so happy you both played and enjoyed the game and took the time to write all this up. My heart is extremely squished ππ